Comments on: Shoot-em Up Video Games – The Cause of Greater Anti-social Behaviors in Teens? http://www.openeducation.net/2008/03/16/shoot-em-up-video-games-the-cause-of-greater-anti-social-behaviors-in-teens/ Free Education for All Fri, 13 May 2011 00:38:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Anon http://www.openeducation.net/2008/03/16/shoot-em-up-video-games-the-cause-of-greater-anti-social-behaviors-in-teens/#comment-10868 Anon Fri, 11 Mar 2011 02:50:10 +0000 http://www.openeducation.net/2008/03/16/shoot-em-up-video-games-the-cause-of-greater-anti-social-behaviors-in-teens/#comment-10868 I came across this while searching for more information for my research paper on the correlation between video games and violence. So far, most of what I have found are studies that have no conclusive results and other trustworthy sites that go in depth about how most studies are biased when blaming video games for crime. From what I've seen so far, don't expect to get anywhere blaming games. I came across this while searching for more information for my research paper on the correlation between video games and violence. So far, most of what I have found are studies that have no conclusive results and other trustworthy sites that go in depth about how most studies are biased when blaming video games for crime. From what I’ve seen so far, don’t expect to get anywhere blaming games.

]]> By: shawntay williams http://www.openeducation.net/2008/03/16/shoot-em-up-video-games-the-cause-of-greater-anti-social-behaviors-in-teens/#comment-9304 shawntay williams Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:20:23 +0000 http://www.openeducation.net/2008/03/16/shoot-em-up-video-games-the-cause-of-greater-anti-social-behaviors-in-teens/#comment-9304 Video games does create violent acts in many ways. Video games does create violent acts in many ways.

]]> By: styles1005 http://www.openeducation.net/2008/03/16/shoot-em-up-video-games-the-cause-of-greater-anti-social-behaviors-in-teens/#comment-7051 styles1005 Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:38:49 +0000 http://www.openeducation.net/2008/03/16/shoot-em-up-video-games-the-cause-of-greater-anti-social-behaviors-in-teens/#comment-7051 Oy nutta! Everybody who says this article condemns violent games needs to actually read the whole thing and not just the title. I am using this as a source for an essay pointing out that games do not cause violence. This reminds me of another argument - that over gun rights. Paraphrasing a statement on that subject, "Games don't kill people; People kill people." And Drak is exactly right - I make that same point in my essay. In the Columbine shooting, many people think that the kids shot up the shool because of video games. This is not true - many well-reasoned hypotheses state that they shot up the school because of a lack of violent games - the games were being used as an outlet for anger and destructive tendencies that were then funneled into shooting up the school. And by the way GTA is not 3rd person. It is second. You might want to get YOUR facts straight before criticizing somebody else's. Besides, she admitted that was a mistake. As a general rule, don't believe anybody if they can't even spell their argument correctly. Same goes for Nicholas. And dan - good argument, though it could use proper capitalization ;) The reason most killings show similarity to video games is that video games are built to be realistic - within reason of course. Oy nutta! Everybody who says this article condemns violent games needs to actually read the whole thing and not just the title. I am using this as a source for an essay pointing out that games do not cause violence. This reminds me of another argument – that over gun rights. Paraphrasing a statement on that subject, “Games don’t kill people; People kill people.” And Drak is exactly right – I make that same point in my essay. In the Columbine shooting, many people think that the kids shot up the shool because of video games. This is not true – many well-reasoned hypotheses state that they shot up the school because of a lack of violent games – the games were being used as an outlet for anger and destructive tendencies that were then funneled into shooting up the school. And by the way GTA is not 3rd person. It is second. You might want to get YOUR facts straight before criticizing somebody else’s. Besides, she admitted that was a mistake. As a general rule, don’t believe anybody if they can’t even spell their argument correctly. Same goes for Nicholas. And dan – good argument, though it could use proper capitalization ;) The reason most killings show similarity to video games is that video games are built to be realistic – within reason of course.

]]> By: exc http://www.openeducation.net/2008/03/16/shoot-em-up-video-games-the-cause-of-greater-anti-social-behaviors-in-teens/#comment-6772 exc Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:42:55 +0000 http://www.openeducation.net/2008/03/16/shoot-em-up-video-games-the-cause-of-greater-anti-social-behaviors-in-teens/#comment-6772 I must admit, when I first became aware of shoot-em up games I had in mind games where a player might shoot spaceships out of the sky. Somehow I missed the initial release of the Grand Theft Auto series, becoming aware of the game only as Grand Theft Auto3 was to be released. wow somebody needs to learn what the term "Shoot em up" means as a genre, because saying that Space Invaders and Ikaruga are in the same genre as a SANDBOX ADVENTURE/3rd person shooter game like GTA, is hilariously ill-informed. Even then, the likes of 'Quake' or 'Call of Duty' aren't "shoot em ups" (also called SHMUPS) but are "First person Shooters" different genres fools... Actually research Video games before you start to criticize them I must admit, when I first became aware of shoot-em up games I had in mind games where a player might shoot spaceships out of the sky. Somehow I missed the initial release of the Grand Theft Auto series, becoming aware of the game only as Grand Theft Auto3 was to be released.

wow somebody needs to learn what the term “Shoot em up” means as a genre, because saying that Space Invaders and Ikaruga are in the same genre as a SANDBOX ADVENTURE/3rd person shooter game like GTA, is hilariously ill-informed. Even then, the likes of ‘Quake’ or ‘Call of Duty’ aren’t “shoot em ups” (also called SHMUPS) but are “First person Shooters” different genres fools… Actually research Video games before you start to criticize them

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.openeducation.net/2008/03/16/shoot-em-up-video-games-the-cause-of-greater-anti-social-behaviors-in-teens/#comment-6446 Anonymous Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:22:08 +0000 http://www.openeducation.net/2008/03/16/shoot-em-up-video-games-the-cause-of-greater-anti-social-behaviors-in-teens/#comment-6446 this is all crap!!!!!!!!!!! it is this or thay do it for real it is just like punching bag this is all crap!!!!!!!!!!! it is this or thay do it for real it is just like punching bag

]]> By: dan http://www.openeducation.net/2008/03/16/shoot-em-up-video-games-the-cause-of-greater-anti-social-behaviors-in-teens/#comment-6393 dan Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:42:50 +0000 http://www.openeducation.net/2008/03/16/shoot-em-up-video-games-the-cause-of-greater-anti-social-behaviors-in-teens/#comment-6393 I spend a long time playing shooters, I haven't felt any urge whatsoever to attack someone. I think that anyone who claims a video game causes violence are just being idiotic. I am doing a study as to whether games influence people to commit violent acts and so far I have found that 99% of the people i have spoken to and studied do not feel any urge for violence from playing these games. If someone is going to murder someone then they will do that regardless of whether they play a video game or not. In most cases that crime is committed in a similar way to a video game, the perpetrator has a troubled background and are usually below the age to be playing the game in the first place. One case that proved this was the Jamie Bulger murder where the kids murdered Jamie after watching childs play 3. It later came out that they had been abused byt their parents (and they should never have been watching that film as they were not old enough). In most cases it is down to how they have been brought up. and the comment made by the student that says "some people play squash after work, i squash people" that is most likely a joke. steven, they do have age ratings. parents just seem to ignore them and then blame game developers when their children go and do something stupid. I spend a long time playing shooters, I haven’t felt any urge whatsoever to attack someone. I think that anyone who claims a video game causes violence are just being idiotic. I am doing a study as to whether games influence people to commit violent acts and so far I have found that 99% of the people i have spoken to and studied do not feel any urge for violence from playing these games. If someone is going to murder someone then they will do that regardless of whether they play a video game or not. In most cases that crime is committed in a similar way to a video game, the perpetrator has a troubled background and are usually below the age to be playing the game in the first place. One case that proved this was the Jamie Bulger murder where the kids murdered Jamie after watching childs play 3. It later came out that they had been abused byt their parents (and they should never have been watching that film as they were not old enough). In most cases it is down to how they have been brought up.

and the comment made by the student that says “some people play squash after work, i squash people” that is most likely a joke.

steven, they do have age ratings. parents just seem to ignore them and then blame game developers when their children go and do something stupid.

]]> By: steven http://www.openeducation.net/2008/03/16/shoot-em-up-video-games-the-cause-of-greater-anti-social-behaviors-in-teens/#comment-5575 steven Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:33:10 +0000 http://www.openeducation.net/2008/03/16/shoot-em-up-video-games-the-cause-of-greater-anti-social-behaviors-in-teens/#comment-5575 i like to say that most violent video games should not be banned but there shouold be an age limit on them like games that are rated M for mature should only be for 13 and up i like to say that most violent video games should not be banned but there shouold be an age limit on them like games that are rated M for mature should only be for 13 and up

]]> By: Drak http://www.openeducation.net/2008/03/16/shoot-em-up-video-games-the-cause-of-greater-anti-social-behaviors-in-teens/#comment-5506 Drak Fri, 14 Nov 2008 00:57:04 +0000 http://www.openeducation.net/2008/03/16/shoot-em-up-video-games-the-cause-of-greater-anti-social-behaviors-in-teens/#comment-5506 Violent video games are good. Because they let some kids vent anger in a game instead of taking it out on real life people. I myself have played some of the "shoot-up" games. But did I go rob a bank afterwards? No. I say as long as you tell kids that it's ok to do the things they see in the game, ONLY in the game. Then they is no real problem with it. Plus it's just all zero and numbers making up the game anyway. It's not like you're killing real people when you do it in the game. So just explain to your kids/teenagers it's ok to play the game and have fun with it. But nevered to do any of that stuff in real life or on real life people. Violent video games are good. Because they let some kids vent anger in a game instead of taking it out on real life people. I myself have played some of the “shoot-up” games. But did I go rob a bank afterwards? No. I say as long as you tell kids that it’s ok to do the things they see in the game, ONLY in the game. Then they is no real problem with it. Plus it’s just all zero and numbers making up the game anyway. It’s not like you’re killing real people when you do it in the game. So just explain to your kids/teenagers it’s ok to play the game and have fun with it. But nevered to do any of that stuff in real life or on real life people.

]]> By: Pat Owen http://www.openeducation.net/2008/03/16/shoot-em-up-video-games-the-cause-of-greater-anti-social-behaviors-in-teens/#comment-1653 Pat Owen Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:05:11 +0000 http://www.openeducation.net/2008/03/16/shoot-em-up-video-games-the-cause-of-greater-anti-social-behaviors-in-teens/#comment-1653 If Nicholas is a teenager he would do better to come in from school and read a good book that kept his interest and improved his grammar and punctuation. This aside, I've read part of the resarch by Cutner and Olsen and found it flawed in too many areas to detail fully here. Sufice to say that their claim of being impartial researchers is refuted by the fact that they have an only child, a teen, who has been addicted to video games since he was five. If they found against video games instead of for them, how would that leave their credibility as parents? They had anyway decided years before that video games were ok when their son started picking off the weakest furry animals. No different to picking off the pawns in chess they said and no parent had objected to their kids playing chess. As for their research subjects, they ranged from pre-teen to teen to college kids. How wise, I wonder if they've noticed that in UK we have a serious problem with kids killing each other and the killers are not at college, they are more often dropouts who rove in gangs. But people - and legislators - tend to believe 'Experts', scary stuff... If Nicholas is a teenager he would do better to come in from school and read a good book that kept his interest and improved his grammar and punctuation.
This aside, I’ve read part of the resarch by Cutner and Olsen and found it flawed in too many areas to detail fully here. Sufice to say that their claim of being impartial researchers is refuted by the fact that they have an only child, a teen, who has been addicted to video games since he was five. If they found against video games instead of for them, how would that leave their credibility as parents? They had anyway decided years before that video games were ok when their son started picking off the weakest furry animals. No different to picking off the pawns in chess they said and no parent had objected to their kids playing chess. As for their research subjects, they ranged from pre-teen to teen to college kids. How wise, I wonder if they’ve noticed that in UK we have a serious problem with kids killing each other and the killers are not at college, they are more often dropouts who rove in gangs. But people – and legislators – tend to believe ‘Experts’, scary stuff…

]]> By: Nicholas http://www.openeducation.net/2008/03/16/shoot-em-up-video-games-the-cause-of-greater-anti-social-behaviors-in-teens/#comment-1508 Nicholas Mon, 04 Aug 2008 01:26:30 +0000 http://www.openeducation.net/2008/03/16/shoot-em-up-video-games-the-cause-of-greater-anti-social-behaviors-in-teens/#comment-1508 first i am a teenager and i think u are in over your head when u say the GTA games are bad when i get home from school i like to go sit down and start playing me games i have all the gta games and they are all very good games but look at this how many kids that you know go around hijacking cop cars and beating up randoms with bats i dont i havent even got in troble with the law before i just think you need to do a litte more resurch into your topic seeing as GTA3 was the only voilent game u coverd there are many games were u are the cop doing the good things but it still li9ke in real life involes shooting a bad guy so i think its time u woke up and got over your self first i am a teenager and i think u are in over your head when u say the GTA games are bad when i get home from school i like to go sit down and start playing me games i have all the gta games and they are all very good games but look at this how many kids that you know go around hijacking cop cars and beating up randoms with bats i dont i havent even got in troble with the law before i just think you need to do a litte more resurch into your topic seeing as GTA3 was the only voilent game u coverd there are many games were u are the cop doing the good things but it still li9ke in real life involes shooting a bad guy so i think its time u woke up and got over your self

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