Comments on: Dutch Secondary School Options – A Model for the US? http://www.openeducation.net/2008/05/12/dutch-secondary-school-options-a-model-for-the-us/ Free Education for All Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:29:29 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Abdi http://www.openeducation.net/2008/05/12/dutch-secondary-school-options-a-model-for-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-8650 Abdi Wed, 30 Jun 2010 22:53:14 +0000 http://www.openeducation.net/2008/05/12/dutch-secondary-school-options-a-model-for-the-us/#comment-8650 What about VMBO theoretische leerweg, i heard its the same as GCSE grade C with a score of 5.5 is this true? What about VMBO theoretische leerweg, i heard its the same as GCSE grade C with a score of 5.5 is this true?

]]> By: Jo http://www.openeducation.net/2008/05/12/dutch-secondary-school-options-a-model-for-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-6917 Jo Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:13:57 +0000 http://www.openeducation.net/2008/05/12/dutch-secondary-school-options-a-model-for-the-us/#comment-6917 Hi Sandra GCSE is the same as Havo and so much higher then kaderberoeps gerichte leerweg Hi Sandra GCSE is the same as Havo and so
much higher then kaderberoeps gerichte leerweg

]]> By: irfan afandi http://www.openeducation.net/2008/05/12/dutch-secondary-school-options-a-model-for-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-6822 irfan afandi Mon, 03 Aug 2009 23:04:24 +0000 http://www.openeducation.net/2008/05/12/dutch-secondary-school-options-a-model-for-the-us/#comment-6822 It seems that vmbo is a good system to prepare the student for next level in education. We would like to adopt it for our school in Indonesia. Would it be possible to initiate an activity for that purpose? regards, irfan It seems that vmbo is a good system to prepare the student for next level in education. We would like to adopt it for our school in Indonesia. Would it be possible to initiate an activity for that purpose?
regards,
irfan

]]> By: Thomas http://www.openeducation.net/2008/05/12/dutch-secondary-school-options-a-model-for-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-6768 Thomas Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:22:17 +0000 http://www.openeducation.net/2008/05/12/dutch-secondary-school-options-a-model-for-the-us/#comment-6768 As I understand things: Kaderberoepsgerichte leerweg is a stream within the VMBO and is meant for students who prefer to learn through practice. They do an exam in four general subjects including Dutch and mathematics and one focused on a future profession (carpentry, auto mechanics, etc.). The program is on a lower level academically (as I understand it) with a focus on the trade. Within the VMBO their are 5 options that increase in theoretical level: IWOO, basisberoepsgerichte leerweg, kaderberoepsgerichteleerweg, gemengde leerweg en theoretische leerweg. The theoretische leerweg give entrance to a college like Hout& Meubeleringscollege (middelbaar beroeps onderwijs BOL4), kader- en gemengde leerweg to a BOL3 and the other two to a BOL2 (all vocational training schools but on different theoretical levels). TH As I understand things:

Kaderberoepsgerichte leerweg is a stream within the VMBO and is meant for students who prefer to learn through practice. They do an exam in four general subjects including Dutch and mathematics and one focused on a future profession (carpentry, auto mechanics, etc.). The program is on a lower level academically (as I understand it) with a focus on the trade.

Within the VMBO their are 5 options that increase in theoretical level: IWOO, basisberoepsgerichte leerweg, kaderberoepsgerichteleerweg, gemengde leerweg en theoretische leerweg.

The theoretische leerweg give entrance to a college like Hout& Meubeleringscollege (middelbaar beroeps onderwijs BOL4), kader- en gemengde leerweg to a BOL3 and the other two to a BOL2 (all vocational training schools but on different theoretical levels).

TH

]]> By: sandra http://www.openeducation.net/2008/05/12/dutch-secondary-school-options-a-model-for-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-6763 sandra Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:46:20 +0000 http://www.openeducation.net/2008/05/12/dutch-secondary-school-options-a-model-for-the-us/#comment-6763 I know this artical is old, but I just want to ask what can you do with a diploma off kaderberoeps gerichte leerweg in the UK? is it the same as the GCSE's of even higher? please let me know, thank you I know this artical is old, but I just want to ask what can you do with a diploma off kaderberoeps gerichte leerweg in the UK?

is it the same as the GCSE’s of even higher?

please let me know,

thank you

]]> By: Jane Wagner-Tyack http://www.openeducation.net/2008/05/12/dutch-secondary-school-options-a-model-for-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-1146 Jane Wagner-Tyack Tue, 20 May 2008 17:47:04 +0000 http://www.openeducation.net/2008/05/12/dutch-secondary-school-options-a-model-for-the-us/#comment-1146 On re-reading the article, I see that students do not choose vocational education but instead are assigned to it based on their performance in elementary school. On re-reading the article, I see that students do not choose vocational education but instead are assigned to it based on their performance in elementary school.

]]> By: Jane Wagner-Tyack http://www.openeducation.net/2008/05/12/dutch-secondary-school-options-a-model-for-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-1145 Jane Wagner-Tyack Tue, 20 May 2008 17:26:45 +0000 http://www.openeducation.net/2008/05/12/dutch-secondary-school-options-a-model-for-the-us/#comment-1145 I'm not surprised that given a choice, and with no contempt attached to that choice, over half of Dutch secondary school students choose vocational education. However, it would be interesting to know what the socio-economic crossover is--in other words, how many students from upper middle class college educated families choose vocational education, and how many students from lower class families choose the college prep options? Is this system designed to perpetuate the status quo? I’m not surprised that given a choice, and with no contempt attached to that choice, over half of Dutch secondary school students choose vocational education. However, it would be interesting to know what the socio-economic crossover is–in other words, how many students from upper middle class college educated families choose vocational education, and how many students from lower class families choose the college prep options? Is this system designed to perpetuate the status quo?

]]> By: elementary educational philosophy http://www.openeducation.net/2008/05/12/dutch-secondary-school-options-a-model-for-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-1125 elementary educational philosophy Sat, 17 May 2008 00:34:53 +0000 http://www.openeducation.net/2008/05/12/dutch-secondary-school-options-a-model-for-the-us/#comment-1125 [...] [...] [...] [...]

]]> By: Meryn Stol http://www.openeducation.net/2008/05/12/dutch-secondary-school-options-a-model-for-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-1102 Meryn Stol Tue, 13 May 2008 14:43:30 +0000 http://www.openeducation.net/2008/05/12/dutch-secondary-school-options-a-model-for-the-us/#comment-1102 A very good account of our school system, I must say. There's one thing that could be added: For the three universities that are specializing in technology (TUE, TUD, UT), a bachelor degree takes three years, while the subsequent master degree takes two years to complete, instead of one year for regular universities. In general, these engineering degrees are considered the most hard to obtain. A very good account of our school system, I must say.

There’s one thing that could be added: For the three universities that are specializing in technology (TUE, TUD, UT), a bachelor degree takes three years, while the subsequent master degree takes two years to complete, instead of one year for regular universities.

In general, these engineering degrees are considered the most hard to obtain.

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